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		<title>By: Deborah Caruso</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yang-jwing-ming-mp3-interview/#comment-14958</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started reading this and was dismayed  about the first few comments.
So  it was great to read the reply&#039;s to these comments. 

I also do not have much money but  would love to train personally with Dr. Yang. As this is not possible at the moment 




I buy a DVD occasionally and practice a lot on my own.  &#039;However good the teacher, &#039;its always up to the student&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started reading this and was dismayed  about the first few comments.<br />
So  it was great to read the reply&#8217;s to these comments. </p>
<p>I also do not have much money but  would love to train personally with Dr. Yang. As this is not possible at the moment </p>
<p>I buy a DVD occasionally and practice a lot on my own.  &#8216;However good the teacher, &#8216;its always up to the student&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Ellal</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yang-jwing-ming-mp3-interview/#comment-13702</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Ellal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disciplined qigong practice helped me beat four bouts of supposedly terminal bone lymphoma in the early nineties (stage four disease, diagnosed &#039;91). I used it as an adjunct to chemo to calm my mind and body through the deep abdominal breathing, which also delivered more oxygen to my blood and pumped my lymphatic system, a key element of the immune system.

I learned standing post meditation and white crane qigong from the above-mentioned Rami Rones, disciple of Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming. Rami is a world-class martial artist and a gifted teacher; I was his first &quot;cancer guy&quot; and in the years since he has helped many to either beat the disease, live far longer than prognoses, or enjoy a better quality of life while enduring chemo and radiation. 

Clear of cancer almost 15 years and still practicing an hour of standing post every day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disciplined qigong practice helped me beat four bouts of supposedly terminal bone lymphoma in the early nineties (stage four disease, diagnosed &#8217;91). I used it as an adjunct to chemo to calm my mind and body through the deep abdominal breathing, which also delivered more oxygen to my blood and pumped my lymphatic system, a key element of the immune system.</p>
<p>I learned standing post meditation and white crane qigong from the above-mentioned Rami Rones, disciple of Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming. Rami is a world-class martial artist and a gifted teacher; I was his first &#8220;cancer guy&#8221; and in the years since he has helped many to either beat the disease, live far longer than prognoses, or enjoy a better quality of life while enduring chemo and radiation. </p>
<p>Clear of cancer almost 15 years and still practicing an hour of standing post every day!</p>
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		<title>By: David Silver</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yang-jwing-ming-mp3-interview/#comment-13501</link>
		<dc:creator>David Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, the person who teaches Tai Chi at Tufts, and who designed this recent Tai Chi Fibromyalgia study with Dr. Chenchen Wang, is Ramel Rones, a senior disciple of Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming since the early 1980s. Ramel has taken his traditional training into his &quot;day job&quot; as a mind/body consultant at Tufts, Harvard Medical School, Mass General Hospital, and Dana Farber Cancer Institute. He has been working for over a decade to bridge the gap between western medical science and the traditional arts of tai chi, meditation, and qigong, through several NIH studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, the person who teaches Tai Chi at Tufts, and who designed this recent Tai Chi Fibromyalgia study with Dr. Chenchen Wang, is Ramel Rones, a senior disciple of Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming since the early 1980s. Ramel has taken his traditional training into his &#8220;day job&#8221; as a mind/body consultant at Tufts, Harvard Medical School, Mass General Hospital, and Dana Farber Cancer Institute. He has been working for over a decade to bridge the gap between western medical science and the traditional arts of tai chi, meditation, and qigong, through several NIH studies.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yang-jwing-ming-mp3-interview/#comment-13499</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are dozens of studies.  You may wish to start from http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/health/28brody.html:

&lt;blockquote&gt;...The many small studies of tai chi have found health benefits ranging from better balance and prevention of falls to reduced blood pressure, relief of pain and improved immunity.

The latest and perhaps best designed study was conducted among patients with debilitating fibromyalgia, a complex and poorly understood pain syndrome.

Dr. Chenchen Wang and colleagues at Tufts Medical Center in Boston reported in August in The New England Journal of Medicine that tai chi reduced pain and fatigue and improved the patients’ ability to move, function physically and sleep. The benefits persisted long after the 12 weeks of tai chi sessions ended.

The study was financed primarily by the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, a division of the National Institutes of Health. To be sure, documenting tai chi’s purported health benefits is a challenge. As an editorial in the journal noted, it is virtually impossible to design an ideal study of tai chi. There is no “fake” version that could serve as a proper control to be tested against the real thing. Thus, researchers have to rely on less-than-perfect comparison groups. In the fibromyalgia study, for example, the control group was given stretching exercises and wellness education.

And unlike evaluations of drugs, tai chi studies cannot be double-blinded such that neither patients nor researchers know which group is receiving which treatment. Those guided by a tai chi master would undoubtedly know who they are and could be influenced by the teacher’s enthusiasm for the practice.

Still, scientists have come to better understand and appreciate the mind-body connection, which for too long was dismissed as nothing more than a placebo effect, and most doctors are now more willing to accept the possibility that stress-reducing activities can have a profound effect on health...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This article is better than most, in that, instead of simply claiming that no valid scientific studies have been done, it points out that standard experimental controls have limited relevance, therefore a different set of standards must be applied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are dozens of studies.  You may wish to start from <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/health/28brody.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/health/28brody.html</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;The many small studies of tai chi have found health benefits ranging from better balance and prevention of falls to reduced blood pressure, relief of pain and improved immunity.</p>
<p>The latest and perhaps best designed study was conducted among patients with debilitating fibromyalgia, a complex and poorly understood pain syndrome.</p>
<p>Dr. Chenchen Wang and colleagues at Tufts Medical Center in Boston reported in August in The New England Journal of Medicine that tai chi reduced pain and fatigue and improved the patients’ ability to move, function physically and sleep. The benefits persisted long after the 12 weeks of tai chi sessions ended.</p>
<p>The study was financed primarily by the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, a division of the National Institutes of Health. To be sure, documenting tai chi’s purported health benefits is a challenge. As an editorial in the journal noted, it is virtually impossible to design an ideal study of tai chi. There is no “fake” version that could serve as a proper control to be tested against the real thing. Thus, researchers have to rely on less-than-perfect comparison groups. In the fibromyalgia study, for example, the control group was given stretching exercises and wellness education.</p>
<p>And unlike evaluations of drugs, tai chi studies cannot be double-blinded such that neither patients nor researchers know which group is receiving which treatment. Those guided by a tai chi master would undoubtedly know who they are and could be influenced by the teacher’s enthusiasm for the practice.</p>
<p>Still, scientists have come to better understand and appreciate the mind-body connection, which for too long was dismissed as nothing more than a placebo effect, and most doctors are now more willing to accept the possibility that stress-reducing activities can have a profound effect on health&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>This article is better than most, in that, instead of simply claiming that no valid scientific studies have been done, it points out that standard experimental controls have limited relevance, therefore a different set of standards must be applied.</p>
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		<title>By: Tai Chi Björn</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yang-jwing-ming-mp3-interview/#comment-13498</link>
		<dc:creator>Tai Chi Björn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not mean any disrespect - because I have the highest regard for Yang Jwing Ming - I have studied tai chi for eight years now and frequently refer to his books - but I have to ask: are there any studies regarding tai chi&#039;s effects on health and illness? In part I honestly ask because if I were to see documented health benefits I maight seriously start training a lot more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not mean any disrespect &#8211; because I have the highest regard for Yang Jwing Ming &#8211; I have studied tai chi for eight years now and frequently refer to his books &#8211; but I have to ask: are there any studies regarding tai chi&#8217;s effects on health and illness? In part I honestly ask because if I were to see documented health benefits I maight seriously start training a lot more.</p>
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		<title>By: YMAA.com</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yang-jwing-ming-mp3-interview/#comment-10899</link>
		<dc:creator>YMAA.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Im writing on behalf of Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming. First, thanks to the host for this short article and the discussion.

The nonprofit Retreat Center is run by volunteers like myself, and is funded by private donations and by Dr Yang&#039;s personal funds.

Dr. Yang has been very open about his finances throughout his career, and with the Retreat Center. There is a bizarre misconception that he is rich, but this is entirely incorrect. Not that its your business, or that someone should be penalized for making a living, but after teaching for 40 years, opening many schools around the world - many of which barely scrape by each year, and putting three kids through school, Dr Yang had a small savings for his retirement.

Full disclosure: http://ymaa-retreatcenter.org/news_events/2009/06/24/financial-summary-2008

Rather than retire, he put his entire life savings into the purchase of land and construction of the Retreat Center. He is over 60 years old - he teaches, starting at 5am, almost every day of the year. This center is being constructed for the benefit of the next generation. Dr Yang will be working during these last years of his life - not sitting around enjoying his retirement. He will not get rich from it. He has no interest in glory from it.

The Retreat Center exists to offer a chance to train in the ancient way, for a long period, without distraction.

Most of the donors are individuals who have benefitted some way from Dr Yang&#039;s teaching, or who are living vicariously through the experience of these young students.

Of the 8 students presently training, only three are sponsored by sponsors or family. The rest are paid for by Dr. Yang. With insurance and food, it costs about $10,000 per student. New student applicants have been encouraged to find a sponsor, or afford their own insurance, but that is not always possible. 

The students training at the Center, with one exception, are EXACTLY as Dr Yang was in his youth, with very similar backgrounds and poor finances.

People are invited to visit and join in the training, at a very reasonable fee, for SHORT periods (not a year for $20K). http://ymaa-retreatcenter.org/visiting  Week-long seminars are also offered, again at a reasonable cost. http://www.ymaa.com/seminars/california

To imply that Dr Yang charges too much for training, after his decades of sacrifice, is inaccurate and unfair. People like Josh should spend less time complaining and disparaging other people&#039;s hard work, and more time working, and training, and perhaps accomplishing things for the benefit of others.

David Silver
YMAA 
(my own opinion, and not representative of YMAA)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Im writing on behalf of Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming. First, thanks to the host for this short article and the discussion.</p>
<p>The nonprofit Retreat Center is run by volunteers like myself, and is funded by private donations and by Dr Yang&#8217;s personal funds.</p>
<p>Dr. Yang has been very open about his finances throughout his career, and with the Retreat Center. There is a bizarre misconception that he is rich, but this is entirely incorrect. Not that its your business, or that someone should be penalized for making a living, but after teaching for 40 years, opening many schools around the world &#8211; many of which barely scrape by each year, and putting three kids through school, Dr Yang had a small savings for his retirement.</p>
<p>Full disclosure: <a href="http://ymaa-retreatcenter.org/news_events/2009/06/24/financial-summary-2008" rel="nofollow">http://ymaa-retreatcenter.org/news_events/2009/06/24/financial-summary-2008</a></p>
<p>Rather than retire, he put his entire life savings into the purchase of land and construction of the Retreat Center. He is over 60 years old &#8211; he teaches, starting at 5am, almost every day of the year. This center is being constructed for the benefit of the next generation. Dr Yang will be working during these last years of his life &#8211; not sitting around enjoying his retirement. He will not get rich from it. He has no interest in glory from it.</p>
<p>The Retreat Center exists to offer a chance to train in the ancient way, for a long period, without distraction.</p>
<p>Most of the donors are individuals who have benefitted some way from Dr Yang&#8217;s teaching, or who are living vicariously through the experience of these young students.</p>
<p>Of the 8 students presently training, only three are sponsored by sponsors or family. The rest are paid for by Dr. Yang. With insurance and food, it costs about $10,000 per student. New student applicants have been encouraged to find a sponsor, or afford their own insurance, but that is not always possible. </p>
<p>The students training at the Center, with one exception, are EXACTLY as Dr Yang was in his youth, with very similar backgrounds and poor finances.</p>
<p>People are invited to visit and join in the training, at a very reasonable fee, for SHORT periods (not a year for $20K). <a href="http://ymaa-retreatcenter.org/visiting" rel="nofollow">http://ymaa-retreatcenter.org/visiting</a>  Week-long seminars are also offered, again at a reasonable cost. <a href="http://www.ymaa.com/seminars/california" rel="nofollow">http://www.ymaa.com/seminars/california</a></p>
<p>To imply that Dr Yang charges too much for training, after his decades of sacrifice, is inaccurate and unfair. People like Josh should spend less time complaining and disparaging other people&#8217;s hard work, and more time working, and training, and perhaps accomplishing things for the benefit of others.</p>
<p>David Silver<br />
YMAA<br />
(my own opinion, and not representative of YMAA)</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Young</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yang-jwing-ming-mp3-interview/#comment-10805</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am well aware of the costs of attending and running his retreat. I have even spoken with him about the requirements for applicants. 

His retreat is nice, but prevents anyone like him as a child from attending. The cost of attending for the better part of a year is nearly 20 thousand dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am well aware of the costs of attending and running his retreat. I have even spoken with him about the requirements for applicants. </p>
<p>His retreat is nice, but prevents anyone like him as a child from attending. The cost of attending for the better part of a year is nearly 20 thousand dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yang-jwing-ming-mp3-interview/#comment-10797</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,
LOL.  In the interview, he explains why he set up the YMAA retreat center.  Apparently, some of the students there train for free (but in the end someone has to pay).

Drew,
Your interview is scheduled to go up tomorrow.  Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,<br />
LOL.  In the interview, he explains why he set up the YMAA retreat center.  Apparently, some of the students there train for free (but in the end someone has to pay).</p>
<p>Drew,<br />
Your interview is scheduled to go up tomorrow.  Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yang-jwing-ming-mp3-interview/#comment-10796</link>
		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Medicine_in_a_New_Key.php

Check out Dr. Mae-Wan Ho&#039;s &quot;Quantum Jazz and the Tao&quot; articles as well -- she discovered that chi is from POSITIVE charge -- proton conductance -- which explains why John Chang didn&#039;t register on the meter tests of his healing energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Medicine_in_a_New_Key.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Medicine_in_a_New_Key.php</a></p>
<p>Check out Dr. Mae-Wan Ho&#8217;s &#8220;Quantum Jazz and the Tao&#8221; articles as well &#8212; she discovered that chi is from POSITIVE charge &#8212; proton conductance &#8212; which explains why John Chang didn&#8217;t register on the meter tests of his healing energy.</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yang-jwing-ming-mp3-interview/#comment-10795</link>
		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similarly Mantak Chia began training because he had &quot;low sex energy&quot; yet ironically success is based on no male ejaculation! haha.  The secret to relaxation is the vagus nerve of the female climax and the &quot;stem cell&quot; energy, as Mantak Chia states, is better than any food.  But public sex is not cheap. haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similarly Mantak Chia began training because he had &#8220;low sex energy&#8221; yet ironically success is based on no male ejaculation! haha.  The secret to relaxation is the vagus nerve of the female climax and the &#8220;stem cell&#8221; energy, as Mantak Chia states, is better than any food.  But public sex is not cheap. haha.</p>
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