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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/who-wants-to-join-mo-pai/#comment-9300</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>xy&amp;z,
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		<title>By: xy&#38;z</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/who-wants-to-join-mo-pai/#comment-9297</link>
		<dc:creator>xy&#38;z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;del datetime=&quot;2009-01-20T21:21:15+00:00&quot;&gt;I teach Level One for those who leave their email.&lt;/del&gt;

&lt;em&gt;[See below.]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><del datetime="2009-01-20T21:21:15+00:00">I teach Level One for those who leave their email.</del></p>
<p><em>[See below.]</em></p>
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		<title>By: Dalton</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/who-wants-to-join-mo-pai/#comment-9295</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, there are very few occasions where I, or really anyone, can encounter an idea or possible opportunity with unwavering belief in that it&#039;s what I&#039;m supposed to do.  I can&#039;t offer some deeply thought out explanation of why I am in search to join or provide support for why I &quot;qualify&quot; to become a student. What I can say, however, is that there has always been a certain comfort residing in me towards pursuing this and most other realms of practice and really, although other aspects of life still have their meanings and lessons to be taught, there&#039;s just something about the paths other than this one that seem to be very...empty or rather incomplete.  

  I must admit that trying to maintain a strict dedication to meditation or any other energy practice/lifestyle does seem to be very impractical with the way everyday life is and I feel, more and more so, that I&#039;m almost living two lives towards trying to juggle my illusion of maintaining the norm versus attaining what I feel meant for me to practice or obtain.  Or, I guess what I&#039;m trying to say is that I know which path I am set upon, but really the main problem is that I don&#039;t know which direction to take. 

If nothing else, I would just like to talk to someone with understanding in what I&#039;m looking for,  a teacher, a friend, or even just someone who remained in anonymity.  I&#039;m not asking for the answers or for you or anyone else to open all the doors to become a teacher of mo-pai or any other teaching, but I am searching for someone who could provide me with the right questions to help me solidify my resolve and more ultimately help nudge me in the proper direction to attain such teachings and/or goals myself. 

I suppose I&#039;m still young though, so at least [I&#039;d like to believe] time is still on my side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, there are very few occasions where I, or really anyone, can encounter an idea or possible opportunity with unwavering belief in that it&#8217;s what I&#8217;m supposed to do.  I can&#8217;t offer some deeply thought out explanation of why I am in search to join or provide support for why I &#8220;qualify&#8221; to become a student. What I can say, however, is that there has always been a certain comfort residing in me towards pursuing this and most other realms of practice and really, although other aspects of life still have their meanings and lessons to be taught, there&#8217;s just something about the paths other than this one that seem to be very&#8230;empty or rather incomplete.  </p>
<p>  I must admit that trying to maintain a strict dedication to meditation or any other energy practice/lifestyle does seem to be very impractical with the way everyday life is and I feel, more and more so, that I&#8217;m almost living two lives towards trying to juggle my illusion of maintaining the norm versus attaining what I feel meant for me to practice or obtain.  Or, I guess what I&#8217;m trying to say is that I know which path I am set upon, but really the main problem is that I don&#8217;t know which direction to take. </p>
<p>If nothing else, I would just like to talk to someone with understanding in what I&#8217;m looking for,  a teacher, a friend, or even just someone who remained in anonymity.  I&#8217;m not asking for the answers or for you or anyone else to open all the doors to become a teacher of mo-pai or any other teaching, but I am searching for someone who could provide me with the right questions to help me solidify my resolve and more ultimately help nudge me in the proper direction to attain such teachings and/or goals myself. </p>
<p>I suppose I&#8217;m still young though, so at least [I'd like to believe] time is still on my side.</p>
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		<title>By: mack</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always helped heal people and make them feel better. I have also trained in martial arts for many years and have seen Ki or Chi power by many masters but never for healing and would love to learn and have a better understanding of this amazing art.
Greatful for any help to find a teacher in Los Angeles area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always helped heal people and make them feel better. I have also trained in martial arts for many years and have seen Ki or Chi power by many masters but never for healing and would love to learn and have a better understanding of this amazing art.<br />
Greatful for any help to find a teacher in Los Angeles area.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/who-wants-to-join-mo-pai/#comment-9223</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, like most of us here, was extremely inspired by the John Chang videos, as well as the book &quot;The Magus of Java&quot;. Since that time I have also become interested in the link between these practices and western occult traditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, like most of us here, was extremely inspired by the John Chang videos, as well as the book &#8220;The Magus of Java&#8221;. Since that time I have also become interested in the link between these practices and western occult traditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During one of my first practices with meditation, I had an experience I have not been able recreate. Sitting down, I began to breath slowly and deeply. As I began to relax and open myself, a tremendous surge of energy came through my body. I felt it flowing into my face and down through my arms, seemingly flowing up from somewhere below my chest. I felt so incredible that I couldn&#039;t help but laugh a bit. After some casual research on the matter I ran across the video of &quot;Dynamo Jack,&quot; and came to the conclusion that what I had felt was related in some way. I have become very interested in the practices of cultivating and channeling these energies, and am now studying simple Qigong and Nei Kung. I hope someday I may be blessed with the opportunity to study under a master of this wonderful art, and the strength and discipline to succeed in such teachings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During one of my first practices with meditation, I had an experience I have not been able recreate. Sitting down, I began to breath slowly and deeply. As I began to relax and open myself, a tremendous surge of energy came through my body. I felt it flowing into my face and down through my arms, seemingly flowing up from somewhere below my chest. I felt so incredible that I couldn&#8217;t help but laugh a bit. After some casual research on the matter I ran across the video of &#8220;Dynamo Jack,&#8221; and came to the conclusion that what I had felt was related in some way. I have become very interested in the practices of cultivating and channeling these energies, and am now studying simple Qigong and Nei Kung. I hope someday I may be blessed with the opportunity to study under a master of this wonderful art, and the strength and discipline to succeed in such teachings.</p>
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		<title>By: Soma</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/who-wants-to-join-mo-pai/#comment-9182</link>
		<dc:creator>Soma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The age of revealing is near. I have just learn a horrible climbs of the truth about the world we are in, its terrifying, it will make old men faint, young men will go crazy. I have studied till master degree level but I feel I know nothing and just about to embark on a new education. I am learning this qi qong thing, but I didn&#039;t have a name for it, till I read the book. I am in London city but this is not far from the wilderness. The beast and pestilent of the wild are also in the city, its a perfect environment to face myself, for there is a raging war within me, good and evil is no easy concept, for the evil of this world is also within me. I am not sure if I should ask to be trained in the way of Mo Pai. Great I disqualify myself before you did. But seriously I hope what John Chang demonstrate is only a climbs of the inner power otherwise is not enough just a child play. Its an exciting time we are in, that we need no teacher to teach us, no priest to guide us, but we must become our own teacher, priest, and warrior. Please I want to cry when I say this and with all due respect, you nor John Chang can not teach me. Then why I am witting this? Bec&#039; I want you to teach me but yet I know inside I don&#039;t need a teacher but you may need a student ( like two swords sharpening each other). I don&#039;t have any power to demonstrate nor any special knowledge, I guess I don&#039;t know much, forgive me and take no offend for non intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The age of revealing is near. I have just learn a horrible climbs of the truth about the world we are in, its terrifying, it will make old men faint, young men will go crazy. I have studied till master degree level but I feel I know nothing and just about to embark on a new education. I am learning this qi qong thing, but I didn&#8217;t have a name for it, till I read the book. I am in London city but this is not far from the wilderness. The beast and pestilent of the wild are also in the city, its a perfect environment to face myself, for there is a raging war within me, good and evil is no easy concept, for the evil of this world is also within me. I am not sure if I should ask to be trained in the way of Mo Pai. Great I disqualify myself before you did. But seriously I hope what John Chang demonstrate is only a climbs of the inner power otherwise is not enough just a child play. Its an exciting time we are in, that we need no teacher to teach us, no priest to guide us, but we must become our own teacher, priest, and warrior. Please I want to cry when I say this and with all due respect, you nor John Chang can not teach me. Then why I am witting this? Bec&#8217; I want you to teach me but yet I know inside I don&#8217;t need a teacher but you may need a student ( like two swords sharpening each other). I don&#8217;t have any power to demonstrate nor any special knowledge, I guess I don&#8217;t know much, forgive me and take no offend for non intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Yadi</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/who-wants-to-join-mo-pai/#comment-9134</link>
		<dc:creator>Yadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evangelos...hmm
What is secret?
When you read the Tao Te Ching
It&#039;s all fundamentally there.
I agree with YOU
it is a curse to most.
Ask yourself a question...
How was the first master trained?
How did the ancients know the
meridian system existed without seeing it?
Where did the original information come from?

I have had MANY masters, not just in martial arts.
They ALL say.
The truth comes before the word...
When trying to speak the truth
it&#039;s always mingled with arrogance and TINTED truth.
The words use too much energy
and take too much time to understand.
You said we should learn to be more loving
and why argue with that my brother?
All of my Sifus will tell you
THE MASTERS ARE ALL DEAD.
They don&#039;t call themselves &quot;master&quot;.
You&#039;re very poetic too.
Anyhow, I still say secrets are for sale
and truth is free.
Bless you and yours
Yadi Alamin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evangelos&#8230;hmm<br />
What is secret?<br />
When you read the Tao Te Ching<br />
It&#8217;s all fundamentally there.<br />
I agree with YOU<br />
it is a curse to most.<br />
Ask yourself a question&#8230;<br />
How was the first master trained?<br />
How did the ancients know the<br />
meridian system existed without seeing it?<br />
Where did the original information come from?</p>
<p>I have had MANY masters, not just in martial arts.<br />
They ALL say.<br />
The truth comes before the word&#8230;<br />
When trying to speak the truth<br />
it&#8217;s always mingled with arrogance and TINTED truth.<br />
The words use too much energy<br />
and take too much time to understand.<br />
You said we should learn to be more loving<br />
and why argue with that my brother?<br />
All of my Sifus will tell you<br />
THE MASTERS ARE ALL DEAD.<br />
They don&#8217;t call themselves &#8220;master&#8221;.<br />
You&#8217;re very poetic too.<br />
Anyhow, I still say secrets are for sale<br />
and truth is free.<br />
Bless you and yours<br />
Yadi Alamin</p>
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		<title>By: evangelos</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the whole the Master would know, or the immortals would know...

They are not necessarily all wise.

They would test the shit out of the student anyway and bind them with a blood oath at the least as per Kostas explanation.

I would think that the whole learning and tradition will die... it will not continue... this new age is not one of war... but of self development, so then anybody drawn to this for that reason would not find a teacher.

I think that there is a lot of good will out there but not enough metle of high grade.

This kind of path would make  a man suffer imesurably.

This is about ego... as per John CHangs failings.

The scrolls should be passed down but I forsee as a last minute exercise when he will pass. 

This knowledge is sacred.

There are so many secrets in many lines of occult and gnosttic study that they would fill the vatican 10 times over.

We should only seek what is in our truest heart not what facinates us, for as John came upon this was a mark of destiny.. the hands of fate... of his highest learning for his soul.

He has suffered and will contine to.

I think Mopai is dead in a sense.

John needs to transend personal failure and forgive himself for his own shortcomings... pull his head out his arse and move on.

I am disgusted. I am without mercy or pity for these failures. We all need to appreciate this as an example of humanity in all its forms, all its glory and greatness and its pitiful weakness.

How can you model yourself on this man. 
We need to be the best we can be for ourselves and those we love,

THis knowlege is a curse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the whole the Master would know, or the immortals would know&#8230;</p>
<p>They are not necessarily all wise.</p>
<p>They would test the shit out of the student anyway and bind them with a blood oath at the least as per Kostas explanation.</p>
<p>I would think that the whole learning and tradition will die&#8230; it will not continue&#8230; this new age is not one of war&#8230; but of self development, so then anybody drawn to this for that reason would not find a teacher.</p>
<p>I think that there is a lot of good will out there but not enough metle of high grade.</p>
<p>This kind of path would make  a man suffer imesurably.</p>
<p>This is about ego&#8230; as per John CHangs failings.</p>
<p>The scrolls should be passed down but I forsee as a last minute exercise when he will pass. </p>
<p>This knowledge is sacred.</p>
<p>There are so many secrets in many lines of occult and gnosttic study that they would fill the vatican 10 times over.</p>
<p>We should only seek what is in our truest heart not what facinates us, for as John came upon this was a mark of destiny.. the hands of fate&#8230; of his highest learning for his soul.</p>
<p>He has suffered and will contine to.</p>
<p>I think Mopai is dead in a sense.</p>
<p>John needs to transend personal failure and forgive himself for his own shortcomings&#8230; pull his head out his arse and move on.</p>
<p>I am disgusted. I am without mercy or pity for these failures. We all need to appreciate this as an example of humanity in all its forms, all its glory and greatness and its pitiful weakness.</p>
<p>How can you model yourself on this man.<br />
We need to be the best we can be for ourselves and those we love,</p>
<p>THis knowlege is a curse.</p>
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		<title>By: Yadi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK...I&#039;ve thought about this question for about 1/2 a year
among other things of course.
Here&#039;s my two cents
Pyrokenesis (starting fires with the mind) is a cool trick.
The needleless acupuncture is mad cool too
If ANYONE was meant to know how to gain these abilities...
Then the immortal masters would know them already
and send a teacher.
I practice Nei Kung and Qigong and BaguaZhang
I know of maybe 10 publications that actually
have some real substance, but YOU HAVE TO HAVE
AT LEAST STUDIED WITH AN ACTUAL PERSON FIRST.
Then you can expand by yourself.
As far as Master Chang goes, I quote Bruce Lee &quot;There are NO secrets&quot; period.
Most &quot;martial artists&quot; I know either want to be MMA hormone jockeys 
and most &quot;internal arts&quot; students can&#039;t hold a stance for
five minutes.

With full respect to every person on this forum and Master Chang
If you open up yourself through PRACTICE, the answer will come to you.
Practice more, practice better, practice with love.
Blessings
Yadi Alamin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230;I&#8217;ve thought about this question for about 1/2 a year<br />
among other things of course.<br />
Here&#8217;s my two cents<br />
Pyrokenesis (starting fires with the mind) is a cool trick.<br />
The needleless acupuncture is mad cool too<br />
If ANYONE was meant to know how to gain these abilities&#8230;<br />
Then the immortal masters would know them already<br />
and send a teacher.<br />
I practice Nei Kung and Qigong and BaguaZhang<br />
I know of maybe 10 publications that actually<br />
have some real substance, but YOU HAVE TO HAVE<br />
AT LEAST STUDIED WITH AN ACTUAL PERSON FIRST.<br />
Then you can expand by yourself.<br />
As far as Master Chang goes, I quote Bruce Lee &#8220;There are NO secrets&#8221; period.<br />
Most &#8220;martial artists&#8221; I know either want to be MMA hormone jockeys<br />
and most &#8220;internal arts&#8221; students can&#8217;t hold a stance for<br />
five minutes.</p>
<p>With full respect to every person on this forum and Master Chang<br />
If you open up yourself through PRACTICE, the answer will come to you.<br />
Practice more, practice better, practice with love.<br />
Blessings<br />
Yadi Alamin</p>
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