Comments on: The Annotated Tao of Jeet Kune Do http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/ Martial arts for personal development Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:51:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: chris http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-13456 chris Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:21:09 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-13456 That may be so, but professional writers have been fired and disgraced for copying less than Tao of JKD does, without attribution. That may be so, but professional writers have been fired and disgraced for copying less than Tao of JKD does, without attribution.

]]> By: Anon http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-13455 Anon Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:29:54 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-13455 Every literary work, philosophical concept or anything of the sort is derivative of and influenced by something. That's how the world works. Nothing is or will ever be original. Every literary work, philosophical concept or anything of the sort is derivative of and influenced by something. That’s how the world works. Nothing is or will ever be original.

]]> By: Bri http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-13451 Bri Mon, 08 Nov 2010 08:05:30 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-13451 Thank you for pointing the sky is blue. Thank you for pointing the sky is blue.

]]> By: Joe http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12841 Joe Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:49:45 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12841 I said and this ripped me off, so I'm saying something else because I didn't copy it, or did I? understand some all the time, and some, all the time. And a punch only gets better, and becareful older, your tendons and ligaments don't respond as well. I said and this ripped me off, so I’m saying something else because I didn’t copy it, or did I? understand some all the time, and some, all the time. And a punch only gets better, and becareful older, your tendons and ligaments don’t respond as well.

]]> By: Daryl http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12833 Daryl Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:52:16 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12833 I do not claim to know a great deal about jeet kun do but what I do understand of it is that Bruce did not intend his concept to be debated or even studied to a ridiculous point. Even though this is an interesting and thought provoking article, I am still inspired to live my life with his concept in mind. I do not claim to know a great deal about jeet kun do but what I do understand of it is that Bruce did not intend his concept to be debated or even studied to a ridiculous point. Even though this is an interesting and thought provoking article, I am still inspired to live my life with his concept in mind.

]]> By: Darby Weaver http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12154 Darby Weaver Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:34:47 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12154 How can a man who died be a plagiarist of something he did not write? You mention the notes were taken after his death, obviously why they are not attributed to the original authors. They were notes put together by another, and not Lee himself, for the benefit of others. Hmmm... How can a man who died be a plagiarist of something he did not write?

You mention the notes were taken after his death, obviously why they are not attributed to the original authors. They were notes put together by another, and not Lee himself, for the benefit of others.

Hmmm…

]]> By: Jon Smith http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12136 Jon Smith Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:41:00 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12136 Bruce was not a Plagarist!! If you read up on his life you'll find that Bruce was always note taking, reading, and researching different ideas, concepts, and training. Many students have said Bruce would always cite his references when explaining things to them. Now leave this alone!!! It's published, everyone for the most part knows about it, and not everyone is obsessed with Plagarism as some of you all seem. Bruce was not a Plagarist!! If you read up on his life you’ll find that Bruce was always note taking, reading, and researching different ideas, concepts, and training. Many students have said Bruce would always cite his references when explaining things to them.

Now leave this alone!!! It’s published, everyone for the most part knows about it, and not everyone is obsessed with Plagarism as some of you all seem.

]]> By: Tom http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12135 Tom Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:37:42 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12135 I will add that cross referencing, especially nowdays is relatively easy, considering the internet. I agree with BOB although I will add that it's not "impossible" to cross refence thousands of pages of notes, it's more time consuming. Prehaps they should've taken more time with cross referencing and providing the PROPER author onto the works. We must remember these were NOTES complied into this so called book. They weren't for editorial or publishing purposes. I've crossed reference quite a few "paragraphs and sentences" from Tao and have found it to be quite interesting in where he was possibly trying to go with Tao of JKD. However well never know. Citing sources when you use them is crucial, no matter what! But using one's own notes and personal papers for $$ and memorializing one is just wrong!! Especially given we have no idea on how Bruce Lee would've wanted this to be told. It is true that in college (as I'm sure you all know) plagarism is always checked on when papers are handed in. It is also taught how to avoid it and how to cite proper authorities when you borrow something. I will add that in reality for the most part 95% JKD is a combination of previous authors and artists ideas, works, notes, and systems. So technically there's really nothing "new" about JKD and even Bruce Lee said it himself. If you really want to get to the bottom of it, plagarism is very simple. How many of us actually take notes, cite ALL authors, page numbers, publishers, etc.... Every time especially when your writing fast and in a note taking mind set? (I know for the most part I do- however I've been known to slip at a time or two) I will add that cross referencing, especially nowdays is relatively easy, considering the internet.

I agree with BOB although I will add that it’s not “impossible” to cross refence thousands of pages of notes, it’s more time consuming. Prehaps they should’ve taken more time with cross referencing and providing the PROPER author onto the works. We must remember these were NOTES complied into this so called book. They weren’t for editorial or publishing purposes.

I’ve crossed reference quite a few “paragraphs and sentences” from Tao and have found it to be quite interesting in where he was possibly trying to go with Tao of JKD. However well never know.

Citing sources when you use them is crucial, no matter what! But using one’s own notes and personal papers for $$ and memorializing one is just wrong!! Especially given we have no idea on how Bruce Lee would’ve wanted this to be told.

It is true that in college (as I’m sure you all know) plagarism is always checked on when papers are handed in. It is also taught how to avoid it and how to cite proper authorities when you borrow something. I will add that in reality for the most part 95% JKD is a combination of previous authors and artists ideas, works, notes, and systems. So technically there’s really nothing “new” about JKD and even Bruce Lee said it himself.

If you really want to get to the bottom of it, plagarism is very simple. How many of us actually take notes, cite ALL authors, page numbers, publishers, etc…. Every time especially when your writing fast and in a note taking mind set? (I know for the most part I do- however I’ve been known to slip at a time or two)

]]> By: BOB http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12134 BOB Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:24:03 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12134 CORRECTION You should NOT call Johnson or Lee-Cadwell plagarists as well... (My mistake!) CORRECTION

You should NOT call Johnson or Lee-Cadwell plagarists as well… (My mistake!)

]]> By: BOB http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12133 BOB Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:22:57 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/the-annotated-tao-of-jeet-kune-do/#comment-12133 Actually if you look at 90% of his writings and notes they're all taken out of various sources and authors. Calling him a Plagarist is harsh, and even the authors Johnson and Lee-Cadwell should be called such. They had to go over thousands of copies of papers, and it was almost impossible to cross reference check everyone of them!! Granted they should've used the references on the pages taken into the Tao of JKD. However with that said, if you look at many of the writings, books, and systems now, they all "borrow" from other sources, many times without acknowledging where they came from. And Yes Dragon The Bruce Lee Story is mainly taken out of context for 70% of the story NEVER took place or was altered for the sake of hollywood!! Ultimately every artist in the world has an influence from someone else, either inspiration wise, note taking wise, or philsophically and artist wise. If that's called plagarism, then well were all guilty!! (I will grant that adding the authors references to whatever you borrow, is always vital!!) Actually if you look at 90% of his writings and notes they’re all taken out of various sources and authors. Calling him a Plagarist is harsh, and even the authors Johnson and Lee-Cadwell should be called such. They had to go over thousands of copies of papers, and it was almost impossible to cross reference check everyone of them!!

Granted they should’ve used the references on the pages taken into the Tao of JKD. However with that said, if you look at many of the writings, books, and systems now, they all “borrow” from other sources, many times without acknowledging where they came from.

And Yes Dragon The Bruce Lee Story is mainly taken out of context for 70% of the story NEVER took place or was altered for the sake of hollywood!!

Ultimately every artist in the world has an influence from someone else, either inspiration wise, note taking wise, or philsophically and artist wise. If that’s called plagarism, then well were all guilty!!

(I will grant that adding the authors references to whatever you borrow, is always vital!!)

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