Comments on: Investigating the Dim Mak Death Touch http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/ Martial arts for personal development Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:06:00 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Simon http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/comment-page-4/#comment-11447 Simon Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:05:32 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/#comment-11447 I have been practicing martial arts for the last nineteen years. Shaolin Kung fu 18 years, Tai Chi 15 years Moe Doe 11 years. This is what I have found there are three martial art styles from which all other martial arts come from or are a branch of: Moe Doe, Shaolin and Wu Dang. Each of these styles has two components: Internal and external. The external styles are hard forms and the internal styles are soft and slow. Most people are familiar with hard forms like Kung fu, Karate, Judo, Ju jutsu, kempo, Hwarang Do, Viet Vo Doe, Tae Kwon Do etc... You can be a student of those hard forms until your mid thirties. After that, those hard styles would cause damage to your body because they tear your muscles and joints but your body cannot recover since you are not young any more. To prove my point how many people past their 40 do you see starting Karate or Viet Vo Dao? None. Some people are familiar with internal styles such as Tai Chi, Hsing Hi, Bagua. They use that also use a lot of herbs and pressure points. You can start practicing those styles at any age and get better and better as the years go bye. In most of the external styles you could get better at defending yourself after practicing for a few years. With internal styles a few practices would improve your strength and health condition as well as your self defense. A few years of practice will give you a set of movements to help you heal yourself when stricken with some discomforts and illnesses. But a lifetime of practice would teach you how to control and direct your energy not only to any part of your body but to somebody else's. It is amazing how many people call themselves masters and grand masters. I suspect 99.99% of them do not know what they are talking about. Because grand masters had to prove their skills and abilities in their styles by being ables to demonstrate about 200 or more set of skills that only grand masters and masters could perform. As an example, knock out an opponent without touching him. Or lining up 20 people and calling for example 15, hitting the first person with the palm of your hand without hurting him but knocking out the person whose number in the line up was called. Dim Mack has two components just like ying and yang. It is used to heal or to hurt or kill. Just like the use of herbs will take a few days to heal your body with pressure points, they can be used for the opposite effect to make you sick after a few days and kill you. the age of guns have made the latter side of Dim Mak become obsolete. After the War of the Boxers people in Asia and China in particular found out that guns were going to be the primary weapon to rule. It was the death sentence of the negative aspect of Dim Mak. I have been practicing martial arts for the last nineteen years. Shaolin Kung fu 18 years, Tai Chi 15 years Moe Doe 11 years. This is what I have found there are three martial art styles from which all other martial arts come from or are a branch of: Moe Doe, Shaolin and Wu Dang. Each of these styles has two components: Internal and external. The external styles are hard forms and the internal styles are soft and slow. Most people are familiar with hard forms like Kung fu, Karate, Judo, Ju jutsu, kempo, Hwarang Do, Viet Vo Doe, Tae Kwon Do etc… You can be a student of those hard forms until your mid thirties. After that, those hard styles would cause damage to your body because they tear your muscles and joints but your body cannot recover since you are not young any more. To prove my point how many people past their 40 do you see starting Karate or Viet Vo Dao? None. Some people are familiar with internal styles such as Tai Chi, Hsing Hi, Bagua. They use that also use a lot of herbs and pressure points. You can start practicing those styles at any age and get better and better as the years go bye. In most of the external styles you could get better at defending yourself after practicing for a few years. With internal styles a few practices would improve your strength and health condition as well as your self defense. A few years of practice will give you a set of movements to help you heal yourself when stricken with some discomforts and illnesses. But a lifetime of practice would teach you how to control and direct your energy not only to any part of your body but to somebody else’s. It is amazing how many people call themselves masters and grand masters. I suspect 99.99% of them do not know what they are talking about. Because grand masters had to prove their skills and abilities in their styles by being ables to demonstrate about 200 or more set of skills that only grand masters and masters could perform. As an example, knock out an opponent without touching him. Or lining up 20 people and calling for example 15, hitting the first person with the palm of your hand without hurting him but knocking out the person whose number in the line up was called. Dim Mack has two components just like ying and yang. It is used to heal or to hurt or kill. Just like the use of herbs will take a few days to heal your body with pressure points, they can be used for the opposite effect to make you sick after a few days and kill you. the age of guns have made the latter side of Dim Mak become obsolete. After the War of the Boxers people in Asia and China in particular found out that guns were going to be the primary weapon to rule. It was the death sentence of the negative aspect of Dim Mak.

]]> By: Kempofighter http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/comment-page-4/#comment-11445 Kempofighter Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:43:11 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/#comment-11445 I think somebody else may have already refrenced this you tube video but I think it bares repeating. to all of you Dim Mak believers out there. Here is an entry level MMA fighter facing a Dim Mak Master. Case closed, is that your final answer, see ya wouldn't want to be ya!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I I think somebody else may have already refrenced this you tube video but I think it bares repeating. to all of you Dim Mak believers out there. Here is an entry level MMA fighter facing a Dim Mak Master. Case closed, is that your final answer, see ya wouldn’t want to be ya!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I

]]> By: Kempofighter http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/comment-page-4/#comment-11444 Kempofighter Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:31:18 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/#comment-11444 With all due respect prof. stavros. You are a nut! "Mind irradation" The only way to cause irradiation of the mind IMHO is to expose it to a radioactive source such as XRAYS. And if you put you hand in front of a gun while it is being fired I promise it will have a hole in it or be gone. Unfortunately naive and impressionable people read this site and you put them at great risk of injury spouting this garbage. I assure you that you do not have special powers you can not see in infrared and if you come across anybody with any kind of real life martial arts training they will devour you. Go sell crazy some where else we are all stocked up here. With all due respect prof. stavros. You are a nut! “Mind irradation” The only way to cause irradiation of the mind IMHO is to expose it to a radioactive source such as XRAYS. And if you put you hand in front of a gun while it is being fired I promise it will have a hole in it or be gone. Unfortunately naive and impressionable people read this site and you put them at great risk of injury spouting this garbage. I assure you that you do not have special powers you can not see in infrared and if you come across anybody with any kind of real life martial arts training they will devour you. Go sell crazy some where else we are all stocked up here.

]]> By: prof. stavros http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/comment-page-4/#comment-11443 prof. stavros Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:17:32 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/#comment-11443 hi, i would like to answer that from all i read on this side, dim mak is technique using fingers. you supposed to learn them a lot to fighting like that instead of punch. but is really powerfull. because you have target single points. also some points like in the back of the head , near stern e.t.c can cause big problems. in our days we saw something different like infrared radiation heat . some people have skills to produce charge in hands. they can put the hand in front gun , using mind irradiation then they produce a charge wave in front of hand. actually i answer a big secret , but you will never know how to produce mind irradiation. regards prof.stavros also wing chun instructor. hi, i would like to answer that from all i read on this side, dim mak is technique using fingers. you supposed to learn them a lot to fighting like that instead of punch. but is really powerfull.
because you have target single points. also some points like in the back of the head , near stern e.t.c can cause big problems.

in our days we saw something different like infrared radiation heat . some people have skills to produce charge in hands. they can put the hand in front gun , using mind irradiation then they produce a charge wave in front of hand. actually i answer a big secret , but you will never know how to produce mind irradiation.

regards prof.stavros also wing chun instructor.

]]> By: Kempofighter http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/comment-page-4/#comment-11357 Kempofighter Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:25:21 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/#comment-11357 With all do respect to all believers of Dim Mak. It is fantasy to think a person can tap several locations and knock a person out or even kill them. It is from the land of make believe and if you grew up playing Dungeons & Dragons maybe you still buy into fantasies. However, back here in the real world by the time you have tried to tap my meridian points or picked which organ you want to fail I will have already grabbed you brought you to the floor and ground and pounded you. I respect an enjoy all martial arts but they are not some mystical voo doo like practice that give you magical powers. If you are interested in self improvement exercise and personal protection by all means take a self defense course. Find a martial arts form that appeals to you. But for your own personal protection don't put any stock in a death touch. It simply does not exist. As a practitioner of martial arts and law enforcement officer I assure you there are no magical spots to kill with a limited amount or lack there of significant force in the strike. But I can assure you if you hit someone really hard in certain areas death is possible. But that is simple physics ke=mv2. Let me explain if you have enough mass along with enough velocity and you hit an object you have what is called an impact. This impact can be analyzed using the laws of thermal dynamics such as for every action there is an equal an opposite reaction. If you tap me in 3 locations there will be an equal and opposite reaction of nothing happening. If I smash my fist or foot at fast as I can into an opponents face they will suffer actuall physical damage such as broken bones, cuts, contusions and possible loss of awarness ie KO'd. Martial arts are great but don't make believe they give you secret magical powers. With all do respect to all believers of Dim Mak. It is fantasy to think a person can tap several locations and knock a person out or even kill them. It is from the land of make believe and if you grew up playing Dungeons & Dragons maybe you still buy into fantasies. However, back here in the real world by the time you have tried to tap my meridian points or picked which organ you want to fail I will have already grabbed you brought you to the floor and ground and pounded you. I respect an enjoy all martial arts but they are not some mystical voo doo like practice that give you magical powers. If you are interested in self improvement exercise and personal protection by all means take a self defense course. Find a martial arts form that appeals to you. But for your own personal protection don’t put any stock in a death touch. It simply does not exist. As a practitioner of martial arts and law enforcement officer I assure you there are no magical spots to kill with a limited amount or lack there of significant force in the strike. But I can assure you if you hit someone really hard in certain areas death is possible. But that is simple physics ke=mv2. Let me explain if you have enough mass along with enough velocity and you hit an object you have what is called an impact. This impact can be analyzed using the laws of thermal dynamics such as for every action there is an equal an opposite reaction. If you tap me in 3 locations there will be an equal and opposite reaction of nothing happening. If I smash my fist or foot at fast as I can into an opponents face they will suffer actuall physical damage such as broken bones, cuts, contusions and possible loss of awarness ie KO’d.

Martial arts are great but don’t make believe they give you secret magical powers.

]]> By: jason http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/comment-page-4/#comment-11341 jason Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:19:40 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/#comment-11341 ok....look, in a land of people who think fist of the north star is science and that you should for some reason wear a cat tail and ears in public... dim mak is a martial art, not a sensationaly sci-fi 70's gung fu movie brain splattering technique. the ideas behind dim mak are simple, using weaker parts of an persons body against them, and using circut of energy (flow) this doesnt mean tapping someone and them falling over dead three days later. contrary to kill bill... but targeting vital spots in a manner that can nuetralize an opponent. the body have nerve endings, organs, etc... dim mak focuses on exploiting these parts of the body. ive been to demo's and conferences where the sensei will tap a group of people cuasing them to fall over and have irregular heart beats etc. until he "undoes" the damage. i also remember the video of the gung fu master who would throw his class around using his chi...then the mma guy knocking him the hell out...lol. while there is a bit of truth in the dim mak argument, it has been sensatrionalized by t.v. there are parts of the organ affectant issue to look into... for instance most organ pain, feminine cramping and even shots to the nuts can be releaved by pressure applied in the right places...this IS a scientific fact...while acupuncture and accupressure are extremes to the simple natures of nerve endings and often incorrect in practice...they still have some decent points to make. ok….look, in a land of people who think fist of the north star is science and that you should for some reason wear a cat tail and ears in public…
dim mak is a martial art, not a sensationaly sci-fi 70’s gung fu movie brain splattering technique.

the ideas behind dim mak are simple, using weaker parts of an persons body against them, and using circut of energy (flow)

this doesnt mean tapping someone and them falling over dead three days later.
contrary to kill bill…

but targeting vital spots in a manner that can nuetralize an opponent.

the body have nerve endings, organs, etc…
dim mak focuses on exploiting these parts of the body.

ive been to demo’s and conferences where the sensei will tap a group of people cuasing them to fall over and have irregular heart beats etc. until he “undoes” the damage.

i also remember the video of the gung fu master who would throw his class around using his chi…then the mma guy knocking him the hell out…lol.

while there is a bit of truth in the dim mak argument, it has been sensatrionalized by t.v.

there are parts of the organ affectant issue to look into…
for instance most organ pain, feminine cramping and even shots to the nuts can be releaved by pressure applied in the right places…this IS a scientific fact…while acupuncture and accupressure are extremes to the simple natures of nerve endings and often incorrect in practice…they still have some decent points to make.

]]> By: James http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/comment-page-4/#comment-11022 James Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:16:14 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/#comment-11022 After reading this article, I thought this might be a useful resource for your site: www. biomedsearch .com The site is free, and perhaps the most comprehensive biomedical site on the web. It has all PubMed and MedLine documents, plus mililons more including full-text journal articles and a large database of theses and dissertations. And, you don't have to register but if you do you can use portfolios to save documents, share documents (and comment on them) between users, and set up automatic alerts. After reading this article, I thought this might be a useful resource for your site:

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]]> By: Roger Ditchley http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/comment-page-4/#comment-10908 Roger Ditchley Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:07:12 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/#comment-10908 Does anyone know how long it took to master Dim Mak in the Fosdyke Saga? Does anyone know how long it took to master Dim Mak in the Fosdyke Saga?

]]> By: Fredo http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/comment-page-4/#comment-10706 Fredo Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:09:40 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/#comment-10706 My chi-kung/tai-chi teacher was a student of Jerry Alan Johnson, a very good bagua practioner (google him he has great books). A student of Jerry, lets call him Bruce, was beginning to develop his energy to a high level. My teacher says that it gets to a point where it can become dangerous as the student has yet to learn how to control this level of energy. One day a friend of Bruce came up behind him and friendly slapped Bruce on the back. The friend performing the slap received a shock from Bruce (unintentionally) and the friend went into cardiac arrest. Luckily the friend did not die. Bruce was expecting a new born baby and didn't want to endanger the baby and promptly quit training. I did also meet a friend of a student of Jerry Alan Johnson who was also taught a technique of delayed death touch. I imagine the techniques Jerry taught take many years of chi-kung practice and knowledge of acupuncture points. My chi-kung/tai-chi teacher was a student of Jerry Alan Johnson, a very good bagua practioner (google him he has great books). A student of Jerry, lets call him Bruce, was beginning to develop his energy to a high level. My teacher says that it gets to a point where it can become dangerous as the student has yet to learn how to control this level of energy. One day a friend of Bruce came up behind him and friendly slapped Bruce on the back. The friend performing the slap received a shock from Bruce (unintentionally) and the friend went into cardiac arrest. Luckily the friend did not die. Bruce was expecting a new born baby and didn’t want to endanger the baby and promptly quit training. I did also meet a friend of a student of Jerry Alan Johnson who was also taught a technique of delayed death touch. I imagine the techniques Jerry taught take many years of chi-kung practice and knowledge of acupuncture points.

]]> By: josh young http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/comment-page-4/#comment-10702 josh young Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:17:07 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/investigating-the-dim-mak-death-touch/#comment-10702 If I swung a bat at someone they would hear it, but would not see it more than blur. No way it could be blocked or deflected without another weapon. What is with the 3 pressure point thing? <b>you could effectively jab two fingers lightly, but swiftly into the gap in the center of the neck at the throat</b> You just described what my best friend and training partner describes as his favorite dim-mak strike. But then getting to the throat on someone who can move well isn't as easy as it tends to sound. If I swung a bat at someone they would hear it, but would not see it more than blur. No way it could be blocked or deflected without another weapon.

What is with the 3 pressure point thing?
you could effectively jab two fingers lightly, but swiftly into the gap in the center of the neck at the throat
You just described what my best friend and training partner describes as his favorite dim-mak strike. But then getting to the throat on someone who can move well isn’t as easy as it tends to sound.

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