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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/experience-with-spring-forest-qigong/comment-page-1/#comment-11156</link>
		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrance great to hear from you!! haha.  Christian emailed me right before he went off to Korea! haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrance great to hear from you!! haha.  Christian emailed me right before he went off to Korea! haha.</p>
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		<title>By: wordsoundpowa</title>
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		<dc:creator>wordsoundpowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo
It been a minute.... Your blog is tight and fresh. After you left CWAA , I start going back to practice training you  handed me.  I gave Mantak Chia’s to a friend of mine. Any way i think i&#039;m at a point where those books would be most helpful for me. I&#039;m glad you are still dew in it.

Great work

Terrance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo<br />
It been a minute&#8230;. Your blog is tight and fresh. After you left CWAA , I start going back to practice training you  handed me.  I gave Mantak Chia’s to a friend of mine. Any way i think i&#8217;m at a point where those books would be most helpful for me. I&#8217;m glad you are still dew in it.</p>
<p>Great work</p>
<p>Terrance</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
		<link>http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/experience-with-spring-forest-qigong/comment-page-1/#comment-10829</link>
		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I recommend is to get Mantak Chia&#039;s first book which is just on the small universe -- the same as the microcosmic orbit.  It&#039;s Awakening the Healing Energy of the Tao.  Very brief and straightforward with detailed information in modern language -- and best of all report back from the student experiences.

Then the book that solely focuses on the alchemy from the small universe is &quot;Taoist Yoga:  Alchemy and Immortality&quot; trans. by Charles Luk.  This is is very complicated -- I got to chapter 10 in the practice -- or so.  It&#039;s like a cook book -- you practice the book and you are transformed.  I got to the week of pure meditation -- no food, just half a glass of water.  

But after that the energy was too intense and I couldn&#039;t follow the book because it was too complicated! haha.  Now I know that when the book says generative force it also means negative vitality -- both are jing or electrochemical energy felt as blissful heat.  Positive vitality is the chi or electromagnetic force which is also negative spirit.  Positive spirit is when the light as shen energy is so strong that it creates telekinesis or transforming matter -- which is then called prenatal vitality and is the same as jing.   So the generative force is also the prenatal vitality.  I&#039;d have to double check but alchemy starts and ends with jing and the terms overlap plus there are more factors.  It&#039;s a fascinating book - I gave my copies away to encourage others to investigate.

But in the end the book keeps practicing the small universe until the person makes another physical body and then after traveling around the universe doing healing, etc. (while his first body is in meditation) he then makes his first body completely disappears and his spirit is immortal after that.

To be honest this part confuses me because Master Nan, Huai-chin (an author I discovered RIGHT after my week long bigu fast) states that even if you can travel into outerspace you&#039;ll have immortality for a long time but eventually there&#039;ll be some cosmic catastrophe, destroying the galaxy.  And maybe the whole universe -- that&#039;s exactly what Advaita Vedanta teaches that only the emptiness or pure awareness as consciousness is real -- that any immortal energy as matter or spirit is temporary.  That even the whole universe is an illusion.

This is what Taoist Yoga calls &quot;eternal nature&quot; and the book ends and begins with &quot;eternal nature&quot; but doesn&#039;t elaborate on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I recommend is to get Mantak Chia&#8217;s first book which is just on the small universe &#8212; the same as the microcosmic orbit.  It&#8217;s Awakening the Healing Energy of the Tao.  Very brief and straightforward with detailed information in modern language &#8212; and best of all report back from the student experiences.</p>
<p>Then the book that solely focuses on the alchemy from the small universe is &#8220;Taoist Yoga:  Alchemy and Immortality&#8221; trans. by Charles Luk.  This is is very complicated &#8212; I got to chapter 10 in the practice &#8212; or so.  It&#8217;s like a cook book &#8212; you practice the book and you are transformed.  I got to the week of pure meditation &#8212; no food, just half a glass of water.  </p>
<p>But after that the energy was too intense and I couldn&#8217;t follow the book because it was too complicated! haha.  Now I know that when the book says generative force it also means negative vitality &#8212; both are jing or electrochemical energy felt as blissful heat.  Positive vitality is the chi or electromagnetic force which is also negative spirit.  Positive spirit is when the light as shen energy is so strong that it creates telekinesis or transforming matter &#8212; which is then called prenatal vitality and is the same as jing.   So the generative force is also the prenatal vitality.  I&#8217;d have to double check but alchemy starts and ends with jing and the terms overlap plus there are more factors.  It&#8217;s a fascinating book &#8211; I gave my copies away to encourage others to investigate.</p>
<p>But in the end the book keeps practicing the small universe until the person makes another physical body and then after traveling around the universe doing healing, etc. (while his first body is in meditation) he then makes his first body completely disappears and his spirit is immortal after that.</p>
<p>To be honest this part confuses me because Master Nan, Huai-chin (an author I discovered RIGHT after my week long bigu fast) states that even if you can travel into outerspace you&#8217;ll have immortality for a long time but eventually there&#8217;ll be some cosmic catastrophe, destroying the galaxy.  And maybe the whole universe &#8212; that&#8217;s exactly what Advaita Vedanta teaches that only the emptiness or pure awareness as consciousness is real &#8212; that any immortal energy as matter or spirit is temporary.  That even the whole universe is an illusion.</p>
<p>This is what Taoist Yoga calls &#8220;eternal nature&#8221; and the book ends and begins with &#8220;eternal nature&#8221; but doesn&#8217;t elaborate on it.</p>
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		<title>By: els</title>
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		<dc:creator>els</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do in fact own the &#039;small universe&#039; cd from Spring Forest Qigong but still don&#039;t know how to properly perform the meditation as I&#039;m unsure of what exactly to to do - to feel the energy coming in or to visualize it?  The instructions are seemingly ambiguous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do in fact own the &#8217;small universe&#8217; cd from Spring Forest Qigong but still don&#8217;t know how to properly perform the meditation as I&#8217;m unsure of what exactly to to do &#8211; to feel the energy coming in or to visualize it?  The instructions are seemingly ambiguous.</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://springforestqigong.com has lots of the testimonies from Chunyi Lin healing cancer, M.S., etc.  He does phone healings along with Jim Nance his qigong master assistant.  They both do healings on &quot;energy blockages&quot; but Chunyi Lin has coauthored a qigong chapter with Mayo Clinic Dr. Nisha Manek for a Mayo Clinic medical textbook.  Chunyi Lin first healed a very rare lung condition of a Mayo Clinic patient who didn&#039;t want to have a transplant.  She had been on an oxygen machine but after a few classes of Tai-chi she went off the machine.  He was just new to the U.S. and wasn&#039;t even teaching qigong yet -- it&#039;s covered on the local news report on his website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://springforestqigong.com" rel="nofollow">http://springforestqigong.com</a> has lots of the testimonies from Chunyi Lin healing cancer, M.S., etc.  He does phone healings along with Jim Nance his qigong master assistant.  They both do healings on &#8220;energy blockages&#8221; but Chunyi Lin has coauthored a qigong chapter with Mayo Clinic Dr. Nisha Manek for a Mayo Clinic medical textbook.  Chunyi Lin first healed a very rare lung condition of a Mayo Clinic patient who didn&#8217;t want to have a transplant.  She had been on an oxygen machine but after a few classes of Tai-chi she went off the machine.  He was just new to the U.S. and wasn&#8217;t even teaching qigong yet &#8212; it&#8217;s covered on the local news report on his website.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander, I haven&#039;t met Chunyi Lin myself, but based on Drew&#039;s description (and others), I have some familiarity with his methods.  If you have a specific problem, it is probably best to get a specific diagnosis and treatment, rather than assuming the general-purpose exercises are most appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander, I haven&#8217;t met Chunyi Lin myself, but based on Drew&#8217;s description (and others), I have some familiarity with his methods.  If you have a specific problem, it is probably best to get a specific diagnosis and treatment, rather than assuming the general-purpose exercises are most appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander -- thanks for sharing  your results.  This will sound weird but have you tried cayenne?  You can get cayenne pills with ginger -- but I mean lots of cayenne.  It&#039;s amazing stuff.  Of course what do I know! haha.   My sister&#039;s family was battling this fluid in the lung thing -- the doctor had diagnosed my nephew with asthma.  I got him on cayenne and it cleared up.  When I moved in he had it bad again (long loud hacking coughs and breathing in to get air -- heaving) so I got more cayenne pills and it&#039;s gone.  My sister would get the cough as well but I could heal her by using the qigong only -- transmission while I&#039;m in full-lotus.  Even I got it then -- but still it&#039;s only a bit of liquid in the lungs and cleared out.  Obviously not the same as asthma.  The power of garlic is doubled by cayenne -- and the two together are amazingly powerful.  Garlic will reverse the full flu symptons after 3 bulbs if it&#039;s good garlic.  All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander &#8212; thanks for sharing  your results.  This will sound weird but have you tried cayenne?  You can get cayenne pills with ginger &#8212; but I mean lots of cayenne.  It&#8217;s amazing stuff.  Of course what do I know! haha.   My sister&#8217;s family was battling this fluid in the lung thing &#8212; the doctor had diagnosed my nephew with asthma.  I got him on cayenne and it cleared up.  When I moved in he had it bad again (long loud hacking coughs and breathing in to get air &#8212; heaving) so I got more cayenne pills and it&#8217;s gone.  My sister would get the cough as well but I could heal her by using the qigong only &#8212; transmission while I&#8217;m in full-lotus.  Even I got it then &#8212; but still it&#8217;s only a bit of liquid in the lungs and cleared out.  Obviously not the same as asthma.  The power of garlic is doubled by cayenne &#8212; and the two together are amazingly powerful.  Garlic will reverse the full flu symptons after 3 bulbs if it&#8217;s good garlic.  All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad Mr. Hempel had such tremendous results with Spring Forest Qigong.

I personally haven&#039;t had earth-shattering results.  I&#039;m a martial artist, I&#039;m in peak physical health, have a pure diet, and took up Spring Forest Qigong to cure, *note* cure, asthma.  I&#039;ve had it since childhood.

I did notice an increase in cardiovascular health, with new veins showing up and those types of benefits.  On the other hand, I do still get asthma a bout as infrequently as I usually do (I have to use an inhaler to sleep maybe once a month). 

I&#039;ve been practicing pretty much daily for about 3 months now.  

Have you personally tested it out?  I was a little disappointed thus far, even though I&#039;m going to continue practicing.  I figured a respiratory ailment, of all the ailments there are, would be benefited the most by an increased circulatory system.  It didn&#039;t really do anything thus far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad Mr. Hempel had such tremendous results with Spring Forest Qigong.</p>
<p>I personally haven&#8217;t had earth-shattering results.  I&#8217;m a martial artist, I&#8217;m in peak physical health, have a pure diet, and took up Spring Forest Qigong to cure, *note* cure, asthma.  I&#8217;ve had it since childhood.</p>
<p>I did notice an increase in cardiovascular health, with new veins showing up and those types of benefits.  On the other hand, I do still get asthma a bout as infrequently as I usually do (I have to use an inhaler to sleep maybe once a month). </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been practicing pretty much daily for about 3 months now.  </p>
<p>Have you personally tested it out?  I was a little disappointed thus far, even though I&#8217;m going to continue practicing.  I figured a respiratory ailment, of all the ailments there are, would be benefited the most by an increased circulatory system.  It didn&#8217;t really do anything thus far.</p>
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		<title>By: A Conversation with Qigong Researcher Drew Hempel</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Conversation with Qigong Researcher Drew Hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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