Comments on: “Empty Force” and No-Touch Knockouts Real? Take Our Survey http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/ Martial arts for personal development Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:02:59 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Nigel http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-10546 Nigel Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:56:51 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/#comment-10546 IMO i believe that there is a unseen force that can affect us in many ways. I once sprained my ankle during training and my sensei brought me to a hall where many people practice tai chi in the morning. So after a brief introduction my sensei passed me onto the master. He told me to lie down and started rubbing his hand.. then he place it on my ankle. The thing is initially there was nothing unusual about anything, then his hand started to warm up and then it became so hot that it was unbearable.. he told me to just sit still and it will be over soon.. so i endured and endured till it was over. I was like touching a frying pan when it is on the flame. My ankle of coz did not instantly heal, but however i was able to walk around much quicker than in the past when i sprained my ankle. Im a clumsy fellow. So my point is that there is some unseen force that experts or masters can control. It usually take a long time to learn and discipline is the key. i doubt that any city slicks can control these so called energy to the extend of taking a person out. It might be possible but not without some seeeeriouuuuuuus traning. IMO i believe that there is a unseen force that can affect us in many ways. I once sprained my ankle during training and my sensei brought me to a hall where many people practice tai chi in the morning. So after a brief introduction my sensei passed me onto the master. He told me to lie down and started rubbing his hand.. then he place it on my ankle.

The thing is initially there was nothing unusual about anything, then his hand started to warm up and then it became so hot that it was unbearable.. he told me to just sit still and it will be over soon.. so i endured and endured till it was over. I was like touching a frying pan when it is on the flame. My ankle of coz did not instantly heal, but however i was able to walk around much quicker than in the past when i sprained my ankle. Im a clumsy fellow.

So my point is that there is some unseen force that experts or masters can control. It usually take a long time to learn and discipline is the key. i doubt that any city slicks can control these so called energy to the extend of taking a person out. It might be possible but not without some seeeeriouuuuuuus traning.

]]> By: Chris http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-9917 Chris Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:33:58 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/#comment-9917 Do educate us Jeff. What were your answers to the survey questions? And what do you suppose is the average age of the participants? How old are you? Do educate us Jeff. What were your answers to the survey questions? And what do you suppose is the average age of the participants? How old are you?

]]> By: Jeff Baxter http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-9916 Jeff Baxter Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:06:30 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/#comment-9916 No touch knock ours are real in the sense that hypnotism and delusion are real. That's all they are. Con artists making an extra buck by pretending to have supernatural powers. If you think any different, and you're over the age of 12, seriously, evolution should have taken you out by now. No touch knock ours are real in the sense that hypnotism and delusion are real. That’s all they are. Con artists making an extra buck by pretending to have supernatural powers. If you think any different, and you’re over the age of 12, seriously, evolution should have taken you out by now.

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]]> By: Cobra-kai http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-9033 Cobra-kai Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:32:38 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/#comment-9033 humans are made up of energy why not be able to control and use it the whole universe is made up of energy particles chi may just be electricity going through the body or heat or both what the Chinese called chi we may call electricity i do believe in it but i do not believe in the myths around it no touch knock outs do not exist chi may be a strong force but being able to move things without touching them or knocking someone out without touching them is pure myth i think half the stuff around chi is lies while the rest has truth in it people have being able to endure extreme amounts of physical pain saying it is chi or energy that i will believe humans are made up of energy why not be able to control and use it the whole universe is made up of energy particles chi may just be electricity going through the body or heat or both what the Chinese called chi we may call electricity i do believe in it but i do not believe in the myths around it no touch knock outs do not exist chi may be a strong force but being able to move things without touching them or knocking someone out without touching them is pure myth i think half the stuff around chi is lies while the rest has truth in it people have being able to endure extreme amounts of physical pain saying it is chi or energy that i will believe

]]> By: Chris http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-9026 Chris Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:26:38 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/#comment-9026 Bob, Well, I had my epiphany five years ago, so it must be your turn! In days past, I have played the forum troll, the rational skeptic, the reality-based martial artist, and assorted other roles--and I've smartened up alot since then. Is smartened a word? Anyway, I'll read your link. Colin, Yes, I draw an experienced, intelligent, and presumably well-dressed audience. Jay, Sure, neither "Chi is real" nor "chi is fake" is a particularly profound or useful statement. Yet, I think we ought to start at the beginning. Unfortunately, the poll widget I selected does not allow for any correlation of the answers. Apparently, there are good polling tools, and there are free tools; I went with the free tool this time. (If anyone has a paid PollDaddy account, and is willing to repost this survey there, please let me know.) And before I forget...I would like all female respondents who rate themselves a 10 to please introduce themselves! Bob,
Well, I had my epiphany five years ago, so it must be your turn!

In days past, I have played the forum troll, the rational skeptic, the reality-based martial artist, and assorted other roles–and I’ve smartened up alot since then. Is smartened a word? Anyway, I’ll read your link.

Colin,
Yes, I draw an experienced, intelligent, and presumably well-dressed audience.

Jay,
Sure, neither “Chi is real” nor “chi is fake” is a particularly profound or useful statement. Yet, I think we ought to start at the beginning.

Unfortunately, the poll widget I selected does not allow for any correlation of the answers. Apparently, there are good polling tools, and there are free tools; I went with the free tool this time. (If anyone has a paid PollDaddy account, and is willing to repost this survey there, please let me know.)

And before I forget…I would like all female respondents who rate themselves a 10 to please introduce themselves!

]]> By: Jay Gischer http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-9023 Jay Gischer Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:38:34 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/#comment-9023 I've seen and felt things, and had things done to me that I would not have thought possible. At the same time, physicists describe four known forces in the universe: electromagnetism, gravity, and strong and weak nuclear forces. I don't think there's a fifth one called "chi" that they've overlooked. However, sufficiently advanced technique is indistinguishable from magic. Mostly, my attempts to break something down into stuff that I do understand is met with hostility by the people doing it. They experience my skepticism as rejection. That's not what it is to me, so I mostly keep my opinions and analysis to myself. Mostly the beliefs that people have correspond to behavior that I endorse, so why try to take away the beliefs? My sensei and friend and long-time teacher says that his credo is "Never subtract, only add". I’ve seen and felt things, and had things done to me that I would not have thought possible. At the same time, physicists describe four known forces in the universe: electromagnetism, gravity, and strong and weak nuclear forces. I don’t think there’s a fifth one called “chi” that they’ve overlooked. However, sufficiently advanced technique is indistinguishable from magic.

Mostly, my attempts to break something down into stuff that I do understand is met with hostility by the people doing it. They experience my skepticism as rejection. That’s not what it is to me, so I mostly keep my opinions and analysis to myself. Mostly the beliefs that people have correspond to behavior that I endorse, so why try to take away the beliefs?

My sensei and friend and long-time teacher says that his credo is “Never subtract, only add”.

]]> By: Colin Wee http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-9022 Colin Wee Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:23:58 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/#comment-9022 Amazing to see that over 50% of the respondents (out of 8 so far) have more than 10 years of martial arts experience. Interesting survey. Colin Amazing to see that over 50% of the respondents (out of 8 so far) have more than 10 years of martial arts experience.

Interesting survey.

Colin

]]> By: Mr. Patterson http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-9021 Mr. Patterson Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:41:34 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/empty-force-and-no-touch-ko-survey/#comment-9021 Chris - I doubt we'll ever agree on this particular topic unless one of us has an epiphany moment. Regardless, I do look forward to your post. You consistently make me think and occasionally make me laugh. Two things I greatly respect! On that note I shall submit this link for your thoughtful consideration. http://www.skeptic.com/about_us/manifesto.html ~BCP Chris -

I doubt we’ll ever agree on this particular topic unless one of us has an epiphany moment.

Regardless, I do look forward to your post. You consistently make me think and occasionally make me laugh. Two things I greatly respect!

On that note I shall submit this link for your thoughtful consideration.

http://www.skeptic.com/about_us/manifesto.html

~BCP

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