Comments on: Does “Final Fu” Give Martial Arts a Black Eye? http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/ Martial arts for personal development Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:51:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pardo http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-14379 Pardo Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:08:17 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/2006/08/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-14379 All about speed and minimal touching, punch after punch to the stomach and not guarding the head? It get's a little clumsy when both opponents are attacking at high speed, what happened to the clinch 1..2.. get out with a counter? Many of those competitors are not even using side steps which are really important when you compete on a little square floor like in the FinaFu, instead of falling out of the ring again and again by backing from attacks(Clinch, side step). I'd really like to see some helmets and kicks to the head. By the way, representing a black belt and not being able to fight like one? They probably won their blackbelts in a Corn Flakes cereal box All about speed and minimal touching, punch after punch to the stomach and not guarding the head? It get’s a little clumsy when both opponents are attacking at high speed, what happened to the clinch 1..2.. get out with a counter? Many of those competitors are not even using side steps which are really important when you compete on a little square floor like in the FinaFu,
instead of falling out of the ring again and again by backing from attacks(Clinch, side step).
I’d really like to see some helmets and kicks to the head.
By the way, representing a black belt and not being able to fight like one? They probably won their blackbelts in a Corn Flakes cereal box

]]> By: Brent Emery Pieczynski http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-11232 Brent Emery Pieczynski Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:58:56 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/2006/08/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-11232 Every simulation is only an approximation of what is existing, which is why those simulations will fail the person which specializes in one simulation. The training environment is for reducing injury along with rules created to reduce injury, while defeating people within those rules, is also for the reduction of injury. A contest which has only one set of skills to be tested, with only one available simulation to do that skill testing, is glorified propaganda. What would be wrong with arming those people with therapy-bats, adding a doughnut-shaped platform with a raised round platform in the middle? That situation would have allowed people to pound on each other, then add in some shock-absorbent armor, to allow safe delivery of high-power striking. A generalized perception of what skills people do have, will require a variety of simulations. There are other skill test such as dodge ball, which can transfer into throwing of rocks at other people, along with cushioned long-sticks in a another contest. People do desire entertainment, which is why items such as blending kick-boxing with a ring filled with hanging heavy-bags, that would be a show of skill. The same type of simulation repetitiously fed to people, is intentional deception of people, meant to represent the simulation as truth. Every simulation is only an approximation of what is existing, which is why those simulations will fail the person which specializes in one simulation. The training environment is for reducing injury along with rules created to reduce injury, while defeating people within those rules, is also for the reduction of injury.

A contest which has only one set of skills to be tested, with only one available simulation to do that skill testing, is glorified propaganda. What would be wrong with arming those people with therapy-bats, adding a doughnut-shaped platform with a raised round platform in the middle? That situation would have allowed people to pound on each other, then add in some shock-absorbent armor, to allow safe delivery of high-power striking.

A generalized perception of what skills people do have, will require a variety of simulations. There are other skill test such as dodge ball, which can transfer into throwing of rocks at other people, along with cushioned long-sticks in a another contest.

People do desire entertainment, which is why items such as blending kick-boxing with a ring filled with hanging heavy-bags, that would be a show of skill. The same type of simulation repetitiously fed to people, is intentional deception of people, meant to represent the simulation as truth.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-9628 Aaron Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:09:19 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/2006/08/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-9628 Well, for starters I wouldn't penalize the larger fighter for knocking around the smaller fighter. If you're a black belt in whatever discipline you decide to study you should be able to hold your own in a fight against people of different sizes. Not to mention if you sign up for a competition show, you should probably already expect to be fighting people of different sizes and shapes... But this brings me back to the fact that they all fought like amateurs. If I were judging, I would have stopped the match when it became a slapping fight. Which then brings me to the problems with point fighting. The design of the point system looks like it was intended to reward the flashy and not the efficient (more points for spinning and higher kicks and punches). It doesn't allow for any ground work. This point system also doesn't really allow for strength to play much factor in scoring points. It seems like you could just be quick and ineffective and score more points then a few well placed hits. If I was to judge a fight like the one I saw, I wouldn't have stopped the fight when the smaller fighter tripped to the ground because she was trying to be flashy. I would have rewarded double points for hits to the head. Knockout or tap out would be an automatic win. But what do I know, I didn't start a martial arts reality show that seems to have failed completely and totally. Well, for starters I wouldn’t penalize the larger fighter for knocking around the smaller fighter. If you’re a black belt in whatever discipline you decide to study you should be able to hold your own in a fight against people of different sizes. Not to mention if you sign up for a competition show, you should probably already expect to be fighting people of different sizes and shapes…
But this brings me back to the fact that they all fought like amateurs. If I were judging, I would have stopped the match when it became a slapping fight. Which then brings me to the problems with point fighting.
The design of the point system looks like it was intended to reward the flashy and not the efficient (more points for spinning and higher kicks and punches). It doesn’t allow for any ground work. This point system also doesn’t really allow for strength to play much factor in scoring points. It seems like you could just be quick and ineffective and score more points then a few well placed hits.
If I was to judge a fight like the one I saw, I wouldn’t have stopped the fight when the smaller fighter tripped to the ground because she was trying to be flashy. I would have rewarded double points for hits to the head. Knockout or tap out would be an automatic win.
But what do I know, I didn’t start a martial arts reality show that seems to have failed completely and totally.

]]> By: Chris http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-9623 Chris Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:01:34 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/2006/08/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-9623 I can't remember that particular match...but what do you consider a fair way of judging when the competitors are different sizes? I can’t remember that particular match…but what do you consider a fair way of judging when the competitors are different sizes?

]]> By: Aaron http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-9621 Aaron Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:19:35 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/2006/08/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-9621 I watched the show until there was a sparring match with the tallest fighter (if you can call him a fighter or martial artist) against the smallest fighter (same for HER). I don't mind mixed gendered fights, but it was judged unfairly. After a while, after I was tired of screaming at the TV about how inept the martial artists were, I switched the channel to Cribs, and I absolutely HATE Cribs. Damn you, Final Fu, for making me have to resort to that... I watched the show until there was a sparring match with the tallest fighter (if you can call him a fighter or martial artist) against the smallest fighter (same for HER). I don’t mind mixed gendered fights, but it was judged unfairly. After a while, after I was tired of screaming at the TV about how inept the martial artists were, I switched the channel to Cribs, and I absolutely HATE Cribs. Damn you, Final Fu, for making me have to resort to that…

]]> By: So You Think You Can Dance? http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-5847 So You Think You Can Dance? Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:51:13 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/2006/08/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-5847 [...] 2006, I saw a few episodes of MTV’s reality TV show Final Fu. At the time, I thought the performers displayed physical competence, but not greatness, and I [...] [...] 2006, I saw a few episodes of MTV’s reality TV show Final Fu. At the time, I thought the performers displayed physical competence, but not greatness, and I [...]

]]> By: Mike http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-4765 Mike Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:45:50 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/2006/08/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-4765 I thought the concept was cool. Until I watched the show. I was disappointed that there were about 2000 tae kwon do fighters. Plus the show was so sloppy in fighting. At times it looked like a slap fight. Plus no head shots??? Whats up with that? This is martial arts fighting. Plus could they have gotten a better host? I mean Ernie Reyes Jr. I can't take him seriously he was is Surf Ninjas. Overall the concept was cool. Just cast different styles, and don't get such cocky 26 year old jacked frat guys. I thought the concept was cool. Until I watched the show. I was disappointed that there were about 2000 tae kwon do fighters. Plus the show was so sloppy in fighting. At times it looked like a slap fight. Plus no head shots??? Whats up with that? This is martial arts fighting. Plus could they have gotten a better host? I mean Ernie Reyes Jr. I can’t take him seriously he was is Surf Ninjas. Overall the concept was cool. Just cast different styles, and don’t get such cocky 26 year old jacked frat guys.

]]> By: Eddie http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-4747 Eddie Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:17:42 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/2006/08/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-4747 Honestly, I thought Final Fu disgraced martial arts. It was in no way like a real martial arts competition. I mean, I thought it was great to see Jonathan Phan, of EMC Monkeys, on there, but that is just more proof to me that they were just actors that new some aspects of martial arts and not really great martial artists in a competition. I don't believe that "reality television" is reality at all, and to see that Phan was on there(knowing he is a paid actor) kinda proves that this show is fake to me. But hey, that's my opinion. Honestly, I thought Final Fu disgraced martial arts. It was in no way like a real martial arts competition. I mean, I thought it was great to see Jonathan Phan, of EMC Monkeys, on there, but that is just more proof to me that they were just actors that new some aspects of martial arts and not really great martial artists in a competition. I don’t believe that “reality television” is reality at all, and to see that Phan was on there(knowing he is a paid actor) kinda proves that this show is fake to me. But hey, that’s my opinion.

]]> By: Human Weapon: Reviews And Video Highlights http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-4438 Human Weapon: Reviews And Video Highlights Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:28:20 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/2006/08/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-4438 [...] do you think of The Human Weapon? How does it compare to previous martial arts series, such as Final Fu or Mind, Body and Kick Ass Moves? Please share your review. Technorati Tags: human weapon, review, [...] [...] do you think of The Human Weapon? How does it compare to previous martial arts series, such as Final Fu or Mind, Body and Kick Ass Moves? Please share your review. Technorati Tags: human weapon, review, [...]

]]> By: Ricky http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-4392 Ricky Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:42:20 +0000 http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/2006/08/does-final-fu-give-martial-arts-a-black-eye/#comment-4392 I thought the show was great, it was very entertaning, and I think it represented Martial Arts well, Maybe not as go as it could have but good none the less and the mix up of styles made for good TV,. I would like to see a season 2 I thought the show was great, it was very entertaning, and I think it represented Martial Arts well, Maybe not as go as it could have but good none the less and the mix up of styles made for good TV,.

I would like to see a season 2

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